dear jessica newman and time moneyland,
you were partially correct about the uniformity of oak park. sadly, you are correct about little else. it’s upsetting to me that a prestigious and well-known magazine would publish a letter that is so clearly not fact-checked- and is, in fact, blatantly incorrect about important details. for the record, i was never contacted to verify anything in the essay, and i’m not even sure where jessica got her information.
let’s set the record straight:
1- the city never “explained that such a project was against code”. far from it, i was informed that, while the planner was unable to find anything specific to vegetables, decorative plantings were in fact allowed.
2- i was not un-swayed, nor did i go ahead with a mission. i planted a garden, and made it a “decorative planting” as per kevin rulkowski’s information.
3- no neighbors have complained to me, either now or before. it is questionable whether anyone actually ever complained at all.
4- oh, and by the way, my garden has 5 beds, not 4. i have no hay at all, and the garden doesn not take up the entirety of the front yard.
5- the beds were not found to be against ordinance. the vegetables were the only accused, and they stand alone.
6- the warning was not ignored. in fact, i had a lengthy conversation with the code enforcer in order to gain a better understanding.
7- my blood never boiled. to accuse me of acting with “intentional disregard” is irresponsible and just plain wrong. the project was never deemed “inappropriate”. i was “on notice” to “account for my actions”? are you serious? she makes it sound like i made a pact with satan…
8- she would have been correct that we could have challenged the city’s interpretation of the ordinance if there had ever been any ambiguity or something to challenge. the ordinance doesn’t say no vegetables. never did. but that’s what they cited us for.
9- how about this: the people who supposedly don;t like the garden- if they actually exist- could have gone to city council and had the ordinance changed. i’m not frustrated to be held accountable; i’m frustrated that this story is so backward and wrong.
10- do you really think that the city is preserving the “character” of their community by persecuting one of its responsible and law abiding citizens?
11- “if the majority of citizens disagree with the code…” huh? what’s to disagree with? since the city’s code doesn’t actually say anything specific, how could someone argue against it?
12- oak park officials don’t welcome requests. they don’t even return phone calls. hello? do you have any clue about the real oak park, and not the oak park you idealize in your imagination?
13- did i fundamentally mischaracterize anything? nope. the city is prosecuting me for having vegetables. read any number of the reprints of the actual warning and citation that can be found all over the web.
14- are the city’s actions “thoroughly lawful and reasonable”? is it lawful or reasonable to harass a citizen based on a violation that doesn’t exist?
15- you assert that we are irresponsible in “encouraging ongoing harassment”. guess you’ve never read my blog. ever. too bad you don’t know me or my positions at all. too bad you act knowledgeable, but are, in fact, the epitome of ignorance.
16- i don’t recal ever saying that city employees are “power hungry, irrational bureaucrats”. but now that you mention it, you might have a point…
17- as far as verbal abuse and anonymous threats, i think that pretty much sums up the reaction people will have to reading your essay.
man, oh man…
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:36:26
I wish I could meet you and shake your hand. Just because someone has a title and a degree, can write perfectly structured sentances and speak with a “Harvard Mouth” doesn’t make them right.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:37:08
Good reply!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:38:04
They are liable for printing things that are untrue, you know. But Im sure your lawyer has more to say about that.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:38:09
Great reply Julie – You addressed every issue and kept your head whilst doing so.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:38:50
Did you send this to her, I hope?
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:39:01
I cracked up @ 16 and 17. It is just mind-boggling how many myths you debunked with such ease. I personally hope that after this, you are contacted by one of the greatest civil attorneys in the country, and are able to sue for millions of dollar in harassment, and whatever else they can find. Jessica Newman needs to get that giant *expletive* out of her mouth and start reporting the truth. I too , was appalled by that writing, before you even said anything. Keep fighting the good fight.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:39:15
Very good rebuttal to the ‘editorial’
In Jessica Newman’s defense (sorta)…..she’s young, she’s impressionable, perhaps not long out of the nest (or daddy’s pocket)….hopefully, in a few years she’ll think back to this piece that she’s written (and view it with more maturity).
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:06:53
Yes, but she is a recent law graduate and should understand the finer points of being factual.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:26:44
I agree. She is using her new shiny law degree for evil not good at the moment. She may at some time be able to step back and apologize to Julie Bass. If ever this young woman becomes a judge, I hope this article pops up. By then times will have completely changed and poor Jessica will be subjected to what we all eventually have to endure – publicity of stupid actions during our (excuse the pun) salad days.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:39:42
Bring me the head of Jessica Newman, or just give me her email address. She’s right there on my emails to-do list behind Kevin Rulkowski and the Mayor.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:33:48
You can find her on Linked in at: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jessica-newman/9/360/853
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:12:41
Thank you!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:35:26
An interesting thing is the following is taken right from Jessica’s employer’s webpage right from her linked in profile:
“(xyz corp) is a bipartisan advocacy organization dedicated to making children and families a priority… In all of our work, we seek to raise awareness regarding public policies impacting children and families and to ensure that related programs have the resources necessary to help children grow up in a healthy and nurturing environment.”
That did say healthy and nurturing environment correct???
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:39:53
I have no doubt that they’re going to either rewrite their ordinance to clearly state that vegetables are not allowed. Too bad it’s come down to this. I think they’re going a bit overboard with it though. Rulkowski is going to have a tough time explaining where he got his definition of suitable also. Every dictionary I’ve checked does not list the definition he gave.
Anyway, I say good for you, and until they change it to specifically say “no vegetables” keep on growing them!
Good luck!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:40:41
for some reason all i can think to say is Nice one!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:41:12
Well said. I think you should send it to the magazine!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:43:36
Doesn’t uniformity negate a free society? If one wants everyone to be alike why live in a free country? Keep democracy alive with your garden. Keep up the fight for freedom.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:44:32
“Our bodies need real, fresh food to maintain health.” – Louise Hay
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:45:01
Some people have no imagination. All anyone has to do is glance through several issues of Better Homes and Garden and they’ll find numerous examples of front yard gardens that include vegetables. They have beautiful foliage and colorful fruit. Isn’t it everyone’s right to know their accuser? You should have a right to know who complained. It could be someone with an ulterior motive. Don’t give up the fight.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:45:04
I hope you submited this list of her offenses as it is journalistically irresponsible – which is a misdemeanor offense!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:46:06
I just loved Gayle Tate’s comment on that Time article to Ms. Newman:
“Nice going… defend the narrow and restrictive position of the town fathers. If you wanted to make this issue even more heated, you have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams.”
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:46:08
Battle on, so many gardeners are with you. I think your raised beds are lovely. Although I would plant some perennial herbs like thyme, sage, oregano. they are wonderful in a raised bed.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:46:30
What a twit. She sounds like an uppity snot with her pockets lined by politicians.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:46:34
very nice. looks like someone will be (should be) out of a job.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:50:47
Great rebuttal. I knew that piece was full of errors (not to mention one-sided) the moment I read it. You’ve got support here in eastern Canada.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:52:35
hopefully time moneyland will print your corrections. i think if you submit it to them they are required to do so by law.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:06:45
Sure – on page 199…
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:53:03
I think I might have a resolution to your problem, or at least an attempt at one. Have you considered “removing” the wood around the bed of veggies? My interpretation of this is that the “city” is taking issue with the “type” of raised bed that you used for your garden, not necessarily the plants. Am I misunderstanding the problem? Maybe if you “redesign” the vegetable garden a little, by making it a less conspicuous “garden”, there won’t be any problems. I do hope that you can keep your veggies and personally, if I were you, I would find a way to do just exactly that! But fighting about a “mundane” issue about how something is constructed, that has not been apparently explained to you and possibly some of your other neighbors in my opinion, a complete waste of your time. There are a lot of “garden” websites that could help you “redesign”— your vegetable among flowers. Good Luck and remember, while some of your neighbors may be complaining along with others, you’ll be enjoying all of those wonderful vegetables….and they won’t.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:53:17
The planter boxes have never come up! the Tickets says Vegetables must be removed.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:20:01
I eat dandelion leaves in a wilted salad. Does every lawn have to remove those as well? They sell dandelion leaves in the supermarket!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:53:13
I guess “decorative planting” means “not useful.”
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:54:01
Everyone in the city needs to put some kind of garden in front, then it would be common!!
Silly politicians! They sound like a bunch of people who hate any kind of change!!!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:54:12
Julie,
The Time Magazine article is actually a little different than the one that you posted, and actually is supportive of you. They quoted this letter, which was written by the daughter of the city public information director (a little biased anyone?). Please read the whole article:
http://moneyland.time.com/2011/07/13/in-defense-of-the-town-threatening-to-jail-a-woman-for-front-yard-vegetable-garden/#ixzz1S1Y2czzp
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:55:09
Good reply!! very calm and collected.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:55:29
Thank you for standing up and being vocal. Heaven forbid you lose this battle and a precedent of no vegetable gardens is made and major media outlets continue to basically smear your character with unchecked falsehoods.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:56:37
She’s the daughter of the city’s Director of Public Information. Were you expecting conclusions and arguments based on facts or–say–commonly understood definitions?
She’s basically saying it’s better to keep things like they were 50+ years ago. Therefore, I think we should expect the city of Oak Park to cite anyone driving a car that gets more that 16 miles per gallon in town. Also, watch for the “Whites Only” signs on drinking fountains Oak Park is considering in order to preserve the 1950s town character Ms. Newman lionizes. (_sarcasm_)
In defense of Time, they are not representing Ms. Newman’s letter as reporting, simply republishing something from someone specifically noted as being affiliated with the town.
Good response.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:56:39
Cheering you on, Julie. We’re on your side down here in the Deep South. My vegetables are in the front yard, too.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:57:08
A lovely and cohesive response to an overwrought, immature, and uninformed article…
Jul 13, 2011 @ 17:58:17
http://moneyland.time.com/2011/07/13/in-defense-of-the-town-threatening-to-jail-a-woman-for-front-yard-vegetable-garden/
Here is the link to the actual article, which includes the reporters SUPPORTIVE commentary to an essay that was written by the daughter of the City’s Public Information director (who is obviously a little biased).
Please read it.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:03:02
Right on Julie. My brother in law took on the City of Cocoa several times, but when they bought their house on the river, he refused to landscape the ‘river side’ of his yard across the street from the house so, among many issues “the raccoons and animals would have cover”. He brought up the point that pesticides, fertilizers and herbicides were not washing down his embankment into our precious Indian River daily, especially since he wasn’t installing sprinklers! Anyway, he won, and fifteen years later, it’s still a natural Florida wonderland.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:03:08
I just love people who write things about issues they have no knowledge about, and aren’t willing to take the effort to learn anything about. Jerks.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:06:56
You’re my hero! Why isn’t time magazine contacting you? This story is getting bigger and bigger and they just jumped on the wrong train. You, my girl, just keep in trucking! Home gardeners unite!!!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 21:59:20
Actually, TIME jumped on the right train, and wrote an article that was basically in support of the Bass family, but they included the Newman letter (written by the daughter of the city’s Pubic Information director).
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:10:18
well done…I am very impressed with your response.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:11:15
Consent is still the law. The right to be left alone unless you choose differently. Part of our heritage.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:17:32
No, she’s not saying it’s better to keep things like they were in the fifties, I think. I think she’s saying — “Oh, I’m better at kowtowing to people with political power. Heaven forfend saying the truth — that’s not going to get me anywhere in this power structure. Maybe I can get a job in Oak Park!”
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:17:44
… Wow. I would have thought Time would have better fact checkers. Anyway, nice, well written, response… love your writing style BTW.
On an unrelated to veggie note, if you regularly have more than 3 migraine days a month, you should consult a neurologist (who specializes in headache not stroke/ dementia). A lot of new research has come out in the last 2 years changing how chronic migraine is treated and even diagnosed. It is not a good idea to experiment on your own, or try meds recommended by people other than your physician, as you may actually make your personal condition worse and/or harder to diagnose (even with things that seem safe like OTC and herbal remedies). Headache management has become so specialized and complex, there are literally hundreds of new combinations/ doses of meds and lifestyle changes available). It would be very unusual to find 2 people actually being treated in partnership with a neurologist, who have the same treatment plan. Good luck.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:15:28
stress headache! i get migranes and thought this spring the many i was having were migranes…they were stress…butalbital takes care of them wonderfully!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:43:18
I second this! My OB/GYN sent me to a neurologist for my migranes a few years ago. Best thing I ever did! After one appointment, I had a specific diagnosis, meds that really work and a plan to work to minimize my migranes.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:17:54
Awesome response and great job on it!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:18:04
Good on ya! Support from Canada!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:19:02
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!! Very well articulated response and just so you know I was always courteous in my emails to the city – because you asked that of us .
I hope someone is there with you to help with laundry and domestic issues. It’s easy for us to sit at home and post away, but you must be tired and I am sorry for that. I admire your resilience and courage. We all make jokes about ‘fighting city hall’ but you are doing just that. Good luck.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:19:39
The shame of it is, she hasn’t read anything factual about you yet, to think she will read this and understand is obviously preposterous. Yours is a story of defense (not da’ fence) whilst hers is full of accusation based on slanted, out-dated views. And how about ‘Daddy?’ Did he think that this article, with it’s lack of accuracy was actually going to help? I want to know if he got a preview and signed off on it. Either way, it’s interesting to see who all is going to look foolish here. I wonder, considering the urgency for 1950′s values, does Oak Park ban cell phones, cable TV, solar power, or any of the life-saving medical techniques developed in the last 60 years?
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:21:17
The core fact is that while the government continues to sink our economy, one person took a positive, proactive, stance in regards to her children’s nutrition. I say, good for her. She is also teaching her children the importance of self sufficiency (Do they help weed and harvest?) Her children are getting not only better quality food, but a lesson on where it comes from.
This used to be called a “Victory Garden”. Where is the victory in having the city harass her for any part of this. They should provide free compost and soil made from the yard clippings collected every week by the ‘regular’ yard people.
Shame on them. I hope this wakes people up.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:28:51
Love your response. The press ALWAYS gets it wrong, but this case is particularly egregious. I’m way mad for you!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:34:09
I hope you get a good nights sleep tonight and wake up headache free! I am sure this is all stressful. My prayers are with your family. Take the kids to the beach and rest!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:56:44
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh- thank you! from your mouth to god’s ears!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:47:20
“…….the vegetables stand alone.” I am DYING this stuff is so funny. But it’s not. But it is. My landscape genius friend suggests that you go to your court hearing with a bunch of kids and adults dressed up as vegetables. Imagine the visual for TV!
Stand strong, Julie Bass, you have a huge posse standing with you!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:55:08
This is what I sent her: Your argument would be fine if your facts were correct. First off you obviously have not seen the garden because it only takes up a portion of the yard 160 sq ft to be exact. The rest of the yard has Grass on the easement and on the other side of the sidewalk there is grass that is being planted. and as for your description of “a vegetable garden comprised of four raised beds, surrounded by hay,
taking up the entirety of her front yard. There are 5 raised beds not 4 and there is wood mulch around and in the raised beds with a few paver stones to make it look neat and tidy just like your description of Oak Park. I also drove around Oak Park today and took tons of pictures of houses with burnt lawns with dirt patches and overgrown landscaping. And god almighty Guess what else there was VEGETABLES! planted among some of them. So to you, I would like to send you out into the world of Lawyers protecting the rights of people (EQUALLY!) By saying Make sure you have the facts correct because the details can be the difference between guilt and innocents. So instead of forming an opinion based on Daddy’s biased facts, maybe you should form a factual opinion on your own. Good luck with all you do but don’t forget for now on your lack of effort in fact finding means someones freedom will be taken from them
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:56:42
Shame on you, JESSICA NEWMAN!!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:57:01
Good for you for firing back! I live about 15 miles west of Washington DC, a place that is encouraging its citizens to plant vegetable gardens. I’ve been cultivating mine for several years and although I live in an HOA-driven area, I have yet to be cited for growing vegetables on my side yard – the only place I can grow anything as I’m living in a heavily wooded and very shaded neighborhood. Shame on the officials for being so pig-headed. I hope they can’t sleep at night.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:57:12
Well said. I am less concerned about her misrepresentation of facts…I’m more concerned about her view of a “proper” community. Acres of bland green lawns ignores what huge waste of precious resources going on. The water required to keep that lawn healthy (up to 30% of urban water usage just to have a green carpet?), all the mowing (while in 1950, they might have used manual push mowers, I doubt you will see one today) causing pollution and using fuel that more than half of was purchased from countrys who do not like us. The fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides used to keep them green and our waterways polluted….and you can’t eat a single blade of that pretty green lawn.
Why can’t this lady take a moment to enjoy the beauty of a green pepper, or the shades of red of a tomato…or the beautiful smiles of the kids enjoying being outside instead of in front of a video screen.
The real issue here isn’t your garden, regardless of where you put it. It’s the problem of figuring out where we lost our sanity, our REAL community, and how we get it back
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:09:46
Incredibly well said, Jeff.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 18:58:14
I read about this on another blog and had to come straight here and find out more. I can’t believe it the craziness of your town! Your city planners belong in Jurassic Park with the rest of the dinosaurs. Here in Australia we encourage community gardens, local food movements and home vegetable gardening. As should anyone in their right mind, given looming food shortages and the global explosion of population. I will sign your petition, contact your Mayor and share this as widely as I can. Your officials will make your town famous – for all the wrong reasons…..
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:03:17
THIS is exactly how we get the community back Jeff. The progression of the consciousness shift Julie’s stance on principle and desire to exert personal property rights is affecting is stunning! What a privilege to be at the birth of a paradigm shift!
Happy weeding!
Diane
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:03:22
Hat’s off to you for sticking to your guns. I would do the same. I also appreciate the fact that you started a blog and keeping us up to date. These are important too. Somewhere we have lost some of our rights and it is very troubling. You at least are broadcasting this exact issue and this helps others realize what is going on.
THANK YOU!
Deb Witter
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:05:18
Excellent rebuttal, Julie. And now that I have a face to put to your name (via a video you posted) I can envision you talking. By any chance are you Italian? We speak the same language – you and I. Only you are much calmer than I would be!
One of our local garden centers features many plants that are both vegetables and decorative. This year I planted artichokes – gorgeous! And my squash rivals any non-food-bearing plant. We have rosemary bushes – almost everyone does! They are pretty, flower and useful!
Keep up the fight, girl! And I know you are going to win because your court date is my Mom’s birthday. She loved to garden. I know she is up there pulling for ya!
Maria
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:09:01
It would be so cool if the residents of your city would support you and build a garden in their front yard too. Then it would be “suitable” as many others would have one.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:09:59
you tell them! i don’t live in oakpark…i live in norman, ok…but if i DID..i would surely be backing you!
in todays economic times how can they EVEN BEGIN to stop someone from growing food for themselves or OTHERS?!?!?!?
keep on keepin on!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:19:04
i’m sorry…i AM backing you…i just have no power being states away! write those letters and emails people!!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:10:14
I think after this is all over…..you need a vacation.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:17:45
you are sooo right! the entire governing in the matter should be embarrassed for wasting time and money in such a ridiculous matter! Shame on you City Officials…
Like someone else said… I want to shake your hand! you have my support from muggy Florida…
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:18:29
Julie,
I hope your migraine goes away soon. There are a LOT of people that support you. (bet you already knew that, huh) I am so in support of what you are doing. Keep up the good fight. (((virtual hug )))
Marianne Gizzi
Highwood Il. USA
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:32:02
First rule in being a reporter…..check both sides and only state facts. Sadly Jessica Newman did a very poor job.
As usual Julie, you did wonderful!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:07:31
Jessica is not a reporter, and made that clear in her opinion essay, as did ‘Time’ when they printed it.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:09:00
And, yes, Julie did a GREAT job!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:38:16
Maybe you should send them a picture of the vegetable garden at the White House. After all if it is good enough for the front lawn of our President’s house should it not be acceptable in Oak Park.
I am involved with National Garden Club contact you local garden club and your state garden club for support. Lawns require energy and gardens provide food for so much less energy and chemicals.
I have forwarded your story to many friends we are in your corner. I converted my raised flower beds on my patio to vegetables. Looking forward to my first tomato.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:49:35
Did she interview you Julie? Good job standing up to her and calling her on the crappy information she’s putting out there. I’m going to post this to Take Back…must go, guests here!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:50:25
I read the comments following the publication of Ms. Newman’s “essay,” and believe me, they weren’t in her favor. Most were either derogatory of such a ridiculously vague ordinance and the city employees who weren’t able to answer questions of its citizens, or were rather short with the author because she obviously didn’t really try to get her facts straight before writing (as you yourself have so ably noted above), or were just plain in your corner period.
I myself hope you triumph over this pettiness, and grow enough vegetables to feed your family for a long time to come.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:52:47
Great job, good reply! Good luck with all. Can’t believe the city bureaucrats are that stupid, but with the press we are used to it…
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:58:41
You made many good points here, Julie. As someone who is a stickler for good grammar and spelling, I will still say that substance trumps style.
While Newman’s article was well-written, it was poorly researched and filled with lies. Your blog posts, on the other hand, are factual.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:11:22
I don’t know about how the Freedom of Information Act works in your state, but you may be able to file a request to view all complaints against your property. In NJ such request carry a fee to offset the cost of gathering the information & you must be VERY specific when formulating your request.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:14:28
Again, bravo! Dignity & integrity amid chaos!!!!!!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:15:13
I think I have heard people say “You go, girl!” in my situation, having just read your response to Miss Newman.
However, you should also know that, when *I* looked at the Time magazine article, I got the distinct impression that they made it QUITE clear that Miss Newman was not an unbiased commentator, and–reading between the lines–it seemed the magazine was taking some editorial distance from what she had to say.
Most intelligent readers are going to see that.
I’m just hoping that you get a really, really, good judge who’s on the ball, because I think this will turn out to be a rather interesting case, legally. I think probably what your lawyer needs most now is a PRECEDENT in which a court made some ruling about what to do with ambiguously-worded ordinances. I think there’s a principle in law that has to do with ambiguities in written contracts being resolved AGAINST the party who CREATES the ambiguity, but I don’t think this same doctrine applies to laws as well as contracts.
By the way, where is your COUNCIL representative, while all this is going on? I see that Oak Park has a four-member council, and at least one of them must be your direct, elected representative . . . why have we heard nothing about him and his take on this dispute?
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:34:19
I would get an attorney and sue Time Moneyland as they did not get your permission or your side before printing this piece of trash. Just because she is the daughter of a city employee does not mean she can do something abusive to you. I don’t care whose kid she is. And keep growing your garden…you have the whole country rooting for you!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:04:44
Good golly, have you not read the article itself, or the comments about it here? The TIME article was, in fact, unbiased and correct, and INCLUDED (with disclaimers) the Newman letter. Good grief! The Bass case demanding enough without dragging all these ill-informed emotional responses into it. Best wishes to the Bass family in resolving this nutty case.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:41:57
Here is Ms. Newman’s response to my asking her about her essay based on a post she made to Google Buzz:
I really, truly have nothing against Julie Bass personally; if you read my article closely, I was simply stating my opinion, and my opinion only, that the city wasn’t being crazy or unprecedented or even out of line. Honestly, the ordinance is not one I feel particularly passionate about. I am passionate about process and I am passionate about the city officials who have been working extremely hard for the city for many years; officials who have recently been harassed to the point of receiving death threats for doing what they honestly believed was their job. The city has received tens of thousands of complaints from across the country, approximately 4 people from the actual city of Oak Park have registered any comment, and only 2 of them were against the action. Moreover, the charge against Mrs. Bass was dropped because, the city agreed, the ordinance as written was too vague. This does not change the fact that the city does have a legitimate interest in attempting to protect neighborhood home values by enforcing standards, and that if the Bass family and others like them disagree with their interpretation, they have every right, and are encouraged to register that discontent by asking for the ordinance to be updated rather then by taking it upon themselves. Shouldn’t the city’s residents have the opportunity to weigh in, through democratic process, what they think about changing the character of their neighborhoods?
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:01:29
“Moreover, the charge against Mrs. Bass was dropped because, the city agreed, the ordinance as written was too vague.”
Was the charge dropped? Or is the next court date in late July?
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:22:28
Mark, thanks for actually contacting the letter-writer quoted in the TIME article, rather than just posting a cranky retort about it. I admire you for taking that extra step. I’m surprised that she actually responded, although according to Ms. Bass the content is again either incorrect or non-responsive. I hope it’s true that the City has dropped the charge and hasn’t yet notified the family, but time will tell.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:51:49
Dear Julie, I just posted on Miss High and Mighty’s posting! Your reply is awesome and what your doing is your own thing and what the heck is wrong with that? Not a damn thing………I thought we had rights in this country! All I can say is “Go Girl” and may you grow many veggies where ever u want! Don’t u love how your taxes are being wasted on such crap. Oak Park must really have their own in tact…………So I suppose your city has a ton of money because they are so “on task” with running the city! Shame on Oak Park for wasting tax payers hard earned money! Best of luck and I’ll be praying for your victory and for those lost souls at city hall!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:55:06
This blows my mind. This rivals the ‘laundry line’ violation that was big news out of Bend Oregon a few years ago.
I emailed all the council persons and mayor and mayor pro tem.
I wish you the best of luck.
My next door neighbor turned his entire front yard into a garden. Awesome.
I’m so glad I live in rural Oregon.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:58:06
You go girl. Again, I am ‘rooting’ for you. And if I lived near you I would do your laundry, perhaps in exchange for a few tomatoes!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 21:14:26
“officials who have recently been harassed to the point of receiving death threats for doing what they honestly believed was their job.”
Officials need to wake up and realize what the job “civil servant” means. They too soon after entering office think that the people are there to serve them, and will do anything for personal financial gain.
The general public has had it with ignorant public officials, and having the government intrude on our personal lives. Only politicians are stupid enough to something like “I thought I was doing my job”. Unfortunately for the officials we are evolving and will not be railroaded by someone that is supposed to be working for us. If an official effects enough people’s personal lives they will deal with the consequences of the general public…..deal with it, or hang up your free ride from the tax payers. It is the job to serve the people …..not the corporations, or the person with the biggest wallet.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 22:05:47
I hope that a Civil Rights attorney picks up this case. Vegetable plants flower and seed – just like ornamental flowers. This is a violation of your Civil Rights. Apparently some snobby official lives or drove through and it trying to prove their have the power to over ride civil rights. You are in my prayers. Where is Michelle Obama who planted vegetables at the White House? Isn’t that a high enough authority?
Jul 14, 2011 @ 02:32:28
Did you know that a vegetable is one that one eats? If one doesn’t eat them then they are just plants. Did you know that there are some flowers that can be eaten and anyone who has them growing in their ‘lots’ could well be vegetable growers!!! Food (pardon the expression) for thought!
Jul 14, 2011 @ 02:37:04
Oh and by the way if you can’t find any flowers that can be eaten ask me and I will find out for you….I have friends who know even if I don’t. Hang in kid and keep cool. You are right and many know it!!
Jul 14, 2011 @ 04:05:19
sound answer Julie. it was really unfair of the author to write her opinion and to represent it as fact!
Jul 14, 2011 @ 10:30:37
The Powers don’t care a wit about justice or truth. Once you have incurred their displeasure, they will lie, cheat, steal and subvert your whole existence. If you are “well-heeled”, they’ll cut your feet off.
Forget attorneys, Perry Mason, and any other romantic notion you have of courts of law. They are out to get you, guilty or innocent. Doesn’t matter one bit. “Your” property isn’t really yours, nor is the wealth beneath it. It is merely borrowed and payed for by “rental” money. You have few or no rights, especially in Detroit; look at Bishop Gumbleton!
Rise up. Accept the mantle bestowed upon you by the hoi-polloi. We need you to defend us, just as the “troops” need Cindy Sheehan. Only a few of us are “selected” to be gold star families. You are it, like it or not.
Jul 14, 2011 @ 12:39:47
Stick to your guns!!! I wish you could come to Minneapolis and see the growing urban/front yard gardening movement here. With our tiny lot sizes, often the front yards have the best sun exposure and available real estate. And it’s a great learning experience for kids, who often have NO IDEA where vegetables come from. I meet more neighbors and kids by just being in my garden and answering questions or trading tips about garden technique. My rainbow chard was a conversation starter the first year I had my garden.
I grew up in Grand Rapids, and I well remember the small-mindedness that is an unfortunate characteristic of certain parts of the state, and how anything remotely out of the ordinary is extremely threatening and must be stopped at all costs.
It is especially galling that in these desperate times, especially for Michigan, people get penalized for trying to bring wholesome, home grown food to their families. Your city administration would serve the people better by looking for ways to keep people in their jobs and homes, not being a bunch of simpering busybodies.
If you’re ever in Minneapolis, look me up. I’d love to show you my front yard garden.
Jul 14, 2011 @ 13:44:29
The residents of Oak Park (not only Ms Bass) have been challenged: Plant Veggies, Herbs, Fruits, and other edibles in your front yards (you must keep them neat & tidy though…). Send your city officials pictures of your community neighbors who have “uncommon” growth in their front yards. Vote for your PRIVATE and personal rights in the next elections. Demand of your lawmakers that they change the laws that do not reflect your own requirements of your neighbors! Don’t depend on your neighbors to do it for you…*YOU* must do this for yourself!!!
Jul 14, 2011 @ 18:13:32
I for one am outraged at the way Oak Park is treating it’s tax paying citizens. I have expressed my opinion of the city’s bureaucrats in an email I sent to it’s city manager. If you find time you may want to read my blog postings on this miscarriage of kangaroo justice.
http://bit.ly/oYbwUf
Good luck and Never Surrender to bureaucrats that make up the rules as they go along.
Jul 14, 2011 @ 18:20:22
thank you!!! -julie
Jul 16, 2011 @ 13:45:34
don’t you have a back yard?
Jul 16, 2011 @ 23:14:15
yes. do you?
Jul 17, 2011 @ 02:04:30
Just wondering why you want to know if she has a back yard. Why would you ask this question?