to all of the well intentioned people who are out there: we know you are trying to show support for us. we know you are trying to stand up on our behalf. we really do appreciate the huge outpouring from like-minded people. but please:
please let’s not post personal information about city officials online- or anywhere else. this includes the blocks they live on, their salaries, their children’s names, or any other personal tidbits you are able to uncover. we are right in what we are doing, but it is wrong to make this a personal hate campaign.
please don’t harass these people at home. they, like us, have lives outside of this story. i know it’s incredibly frustrating when the city’s phone system is blocked and emails are bouncing back and switchboards are busy. but these people need to be able to sit down in peace and safety and take a deep breath- just like we all do. so, let’s make a person’s home off limits.
please don’t spend your hard-earned money to make a point. times are hard, and i would hate for anyone to spend money on political protest if it means they have to do without something else. we are thinking about starting a fund for legal expenses, but other ideas (which are hilarious, by the way!!!!) like sending dictionaries or fresh produce or other delivered items just takes money away from people who need it and gives it to people who don’t care so much (i.e. government bureaucrats).
please don’t use threats or intimidation on our behalf. we have heard about certain city officials being threatened, and we just can’t get on board with that. we want the city to back off and do the right thing, but just like i don’t want them bullying us, i don’t want our friends and allies bullying them.
please verify facts, wherever possible. now that this story has gotten bigger, there are more and more distortions out there. i will always say the truth. my best friend who does the facebook page will always say the truth. but if other people are posting, or are making assertions, please try to ascertain whether or not they are based on facts before you spread them or waste your time arguing over them. if you do know the truth, however, and you see untruths being spread, please do jump on it and try to clarify.
i will try to write another post later, after i return some phone calls and check through the comments. as always, please be patient- i really do read every single comment, although lately i haven’t been so great about responding to every one. i got the phone messages and the emails, and again- it may take me a while to catch up with them. we do hear you, and we do appreciate each and every one of you who has taken the time to come to our defense.
and my kids thank you in advance for forgiving me some extra time to hang out with them in the garden 
Jul 09, 2011 @ 22:56:59
I appreciate you taking the high ground. I wish you the very best in your battle and I hope you, and your neighbors will change a bad policy. If we can assist you, just let us know.
Ralph
Jul 09, 2011 @ 22:58:38
Well said. In order to prevail, we must be able to fight as adults; if we fight like children, we will look like children.
My prayers to you and your family. I hope out of this comes many blessings.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 22:59:13
Great post and love it that you are standing up for your RIGHT to have a vegetable garden on YOUR property but agree–keeping it sane & civil is best. This comes down to PERSONAL freedom on OWN property in FREEDOM loving U.S.A. Anything less is hypocritical and unconstitutional.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:01:34
A very ‘common sense’ request. Taking a stand does not involve inflicting injury or harm. The best way to correct injustice is to be above reproach, be the example of how to conduct yourselves. Be polite, but firm. Be kind, but steadfast.
A quote attributed to Gandhi: “You must be the change you want to see in the world.”
I do not believe the change wanted relative to this issue involves any violence, harm, threat or even nasty words.
Blessings!
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:02:24
It’s a shame that people are getting ugly with their comments and even making threats on the officials. That’s NOT the way to support this issue!!
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:05:07
your highly conscious and principled letter is an inspiration…….big up to you…..you are inspiring people to do the right thing on more than one level
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:06:12
Well said hun, I just hope that the governemt people will sit up and take notice. I wish I could start my own vegie pacth too, but infortunately i kill any plant i try to care for
I hope many more pople take a leaf from your book though and start growing thier own food. i commend you on youe efforts and iniciative
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:08:02
I think a simple, fun solution would be for a whole bunch of people in oak park to put raised beds in their front yards too, thereby making it “common.”
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:09:46
Just want you to know that we support you, all the way out here in Hawaii! I have bananas and pineapples growing in my front yard, and sometimes wonder if the neighbors will complain, since most have more typical suburban front yards. (They’re probably more likely to steal my fruit, but so far so good.) Anyway, I sure hope the ‘powers that be’ come to their senses in your neck of the woods.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:16:19
I don’t think I would be able to muster the forbearance, that you are.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:21:10
Well done. The high road is always the right road.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:21:42
Heard about this story all the way Down Under!
Councils here do some wacky things at times too, but they are also beginning to realise the benefit of letting people grow whatever in their front yard, and even on the council owned verge.
Funnily enough one of the major papers in Aus had a story on this topic today….
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/a-social-intervention-on-the-nature-strip-20110709-1h89p.html
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:22:00
I applaud your plea. High ground is always the place to stay.
Your garden and your conduct is very inspiring. Best wishes to you.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:25:08
Good luck. It is nice to see that you do not believe in dirty politics. I hope you will be able to keep your garden.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:25:11
I’d like you to know that we support you and think that it is crazy to not allow you to have edibles in your front yard. Hang in there and stand strong.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:26:14
Well said! And it’s not like fighting dirty is going to do you any good anyway.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:33:00
Just another case of how wonderful you and family are. Some times you just have to smile and wave! Thanks for the daily dose of hope!
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:33:37
Great post. Good to see some level-headedness in all of this.
I know you may not have time to answer this and if you don’t that’s OK, but I wanted to ask you if you believe this is about vegetable plants or if not having grass in “all unpaved areas” might be part of the issue the city is taking with what you are doing?
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:38:16
If only our government officials, both local and federal, would behave in such an intelligent and honorable manner as you have. All I can say to the Oak Park government members is, “have you no shame?”
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:41:39
I agree with your idea. Remember they used to be called Victory Gardens and encouraged. Michelle Obama is on a mission to teach nutrition to kids and reverse childhood obesity. How about 500 emails to her office asking why this situation is being allowed? Lisa has her own kids plus the neighbour kids in that garden trying to teach them the same thing. But she goes to jail for it? Andi in Tucson
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:41:52
First, I am on your side and want you to know that. I support anyone who would turn their front yard full of grass and wasteful boring ornamental plants into a functioning garden that produces food. Plus, it’s your property, within reason (and I think you are) anyone should be able to do what you did. That said.
I would love to help you design a more “attractive” veggie garden that the city might be more amenable to let you grow. I live in Cleveland, in the city, they aren’t as picky I suppose but everyone is subject to complaints by neighbors about their yard.
I eliminated all grass from my front yard (though my space is a bit smaller than yours) and put in all garden the year after we bought our house(15 years ago). We made the whole thing one large raised bed.
I planted perennial herbs: Culinary sage, thyme, lavender, Greek oregano, rosemary and chives. I intermingled (pollinator) bee/butterfly friendly perennial flowers/bushes: Bee balm, rudebekia, coneflower, catmint, crocosmia, coreopsis, and buddhelia. They are gorgeous and help pollinate your veggies. We also mix in a water feature (to attract birds to eat pests), some pretty statues, a bird feeder and bee friendly annuals.
The way we designed our front yard garden was to plant the herbs/flowers/bushes along the front and sides. Then we plant our veggies behind this herb/flower ‘screen’. This year I have 10 varieties of tomato, 2 zucchini plants (which will be too much), 6 cucumber plants (which grow up on a trellis against the house), a trellis with 4 bean plants, 6 pepper varieties, 6 basil plants and a cold frame with greens up against our foundation. My plot is a mere 15′ x 25′.
We intermingle the peppers among the perennials because their foliage is very attractive and it blends well with the other plants. When folks walk by my yard they see a cottage style garden and don’t even see the veggies intermingled within. I get compliments from passersby all the time and even my councilman raves about my garden when we run into each other.
I do not use chemicals, I use shredded leaves from our trees and my own compost for mulch. Just a thought…it might be a compromise your city might get behind and allow more folks in your community to grow their own food.
If you want some help I’d be happy to oblige.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:45:56
Just another case of how wonderful you and family are. Some times you just have to smile and wave! Thanks for the daily dose of hope!
“let no man pull you low enough to hate him” Dr Martin Luther King
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:49:03
I just found your blog earlier this evening. I was impressed before you made this post. It is a rare thing for a person in a battle such as yours to stay true to themselves. Good job, and I sincerely hope you win your battle. By the way, I looked at the pictures you posted of your garden, it is lovely.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:49:07
Only when we are able to fight the problem instead of eachother will the real problems ever be solved.
Thank you.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:49:31
Bravo! Well said and written. Your children should all be very proud of their momma…wishing you and your family all the best. May you be blessed with many earthworms in those beds!!!
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:51:39
Putting her in jail will take Casey Anthony out of the news for a few minutes. I’m sure her family will appreciate that. This is absurd, especially in such a down economy. Not backing down in a stupid situation is nothing short of dumb. Wake up, officials, start saving your taxpayers a few bucks and get off your high horses. No wonder America has lost confidence in the government. It starts at the bottom and goes all the way to the top. Congratulations.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 23:54:45
If that can be worked out, then that sounds like an amazing plan.
You have hit the nail right on the head- what is commonly acceptable can be changed quite easily, if it’s done right.
Brilliant idea!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:01:45
I saw the yard picture on Drudge Report. Nice garden boxes! I’m going to put my new one out front! Cheers from Salt Lake City!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:03:13
The Internet Hounds of Hell are loosed. No reigning ‘em in, now, I’m afraid.
On the bright side, they’re on your side for now.
And seriously. Who stands in the way of urban farming? Really. I thought everybody loved that stuff.
I try to keep the peace by bringing bags of veggies to my neighbors each year. It’s the least I can do to make nice over my eccentricities and my wood chopping.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:05:46
Nawh…..da kine neighbor no steal fruit from your yard…. we all share!
\m/ – lucky live Hawai’i where we aren’t persecuted for having food growing in our front yard….Hawai’i nei mo bettah \m/
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:09:42
Julie, my admiration for you has gone up several notches….Well said.
Just know you have many people behind you!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:14:12
Right on!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:15:26
I’m really sorry to hear that some people are descending to personal attacks! When a story goes viral like this, there will always be nut jobs with vendettas on their minds. Thank you for posting this. Personally, I sent a very polite email to the Oak Park mayor and a couple of city officials saying I hoped they would reconsider their stance (I imagine with all the attention this is getting, they will back down, and soon). But it makes me sick to think that elected officials may be the target of nasty personal attacks, or –what? death threats? Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me, given the mob aspect of the Internet. C’mon, people, this is a dispute over landscaping, not a matter of life or death.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:15:46
I wish you were my neighbor. Keep up the good fight.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:23:16
“threats”
This is on page 1 of the P.R. manual – when someone protests your actions, claim that they are threatening you, whether they are or not, in order to discredit them.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:37:23
Hi,
Just to clarify a point or two. Government employee’s salaries are a matter of public record. Every taxpayer has a right to know what their taxes are paying for, including bad public servants. They are posted online, but also could be requested under FOIA.
I agree with your view on “threats” and giving out personal addresses. That is totally inappropriate. However, people tend to shoot from the hip when they are passionate about an issue and subsequently make stupid remarks.
I have looked at the pictures of your yard. I just bet, if you had flowers in those boxes this fool of a “technical engineer” wouldn’t be having a problem. Do you not understand why so many people are upset about this? It is yet, one more unjustified intrusion into a citizen’s personal life. People are identifying with this. Every time we turn around anymore, some government employee is telling us what we can’t do any longer. People are sick to death of the idiotic ordinances and laws being passed that serve to further suppress citizens.
I looked at a number of properties in your city. Many were far more unkempt and sloppy looking than yours. So why would ANY neighbor complain and why would this city employee want to push this to the “fullest extent of the law” since it appears to be a rather trivial violation based on some draconian thought process? I would think your city officials would find your ingenuity something to be applauded instead of criticized. Food for your family, well kept yard, environmentally healthy, a great solution to a costly problem. What is to find fault with? Other than this Kevin person looking like a colossal fool at the expense of the taxpayers. And indeed, he is a fool.
I hope and pray you win. That would be called justice.
Colt
Jul 10, 2011 @ 00:55:05
I sent an e-mail to Kevin and the Major, asking them for a little common sense.
Just to keep the pressure up. Numbers count. Got the story from Drudge. You are right — polite but firm always works best on officials who need to get elected.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 01:27:05
I saw this on FB this morning and just couldn’t stop thinking about it! I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this but I thought of a loop-hole that might help you out. First of all, I’m sure it isn’t a crime for anyone to have a flower garden their front yard. Correct? Well, you said that you do indeed have flowers mixed in with your vegetables, and, because many vegetables do flower, (ie: tomatoes, etc.) Why not just claim that your ‘garden’ is nothing more than a flower garden! If nothing else, buy a bunch of marigolds and naustrium and cover the bed with them, (they are very helpful to the soil anyway!) Someone has probably already thought of this, but I just had to tell you my idea!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 01:30:22
I have signed the petition and shared it on my page several times! There is power in numbers!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 02:39:19
Dear Julie, I live in FL and read about your situation on national Fox forum. As a citizen and fellow gardener, hold your stand and protect your liberty and property rights as as an American citizen on the local level. God Bless you and your family and wish you a bountiful harvest. Grow Girl Grow!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 02:49:14
You have SO much to be proud of, Julie! Not only are you growing lovely vegetables, by your calm actions you are growing wonderful children too, K9hara! Continue to set a great example and again, lots of success and luck to you!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 03:06:18
Wow. I grew up in Macomb County, and while I am sad this is happening to you, I am not surprised. I hope that you prevail- it is your property. I remember the uproar over my mom letting us grow the grass tall IN THE BACKYARD, behind a privacy fence, one summer.
Have you considered fencing? Not that that is cheap.And, I suppose it is not allowed. Good Luck! You should set up a paypal button for a legal defense fund.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 03:37:29
Bright blessings to you and yours. Times are difficult for so many here and everywhere at this time. We too are growing our own veggies and herbs. I am so sorry for any trouble some may have caused you. When I read of your trouble I was so shocked because it was just so insane to think anyone has the right to force you to do something other than that which you choose on your own property. I think this is what has inspired so many to respond to your difficulty. LOL! This fall my sis and I are building raised beds in our front yard, not enough sun in the back, and fertilizing them in preparation for next spring. To many you are a hero, a person who speaks a truth of that which is really important at this time, not with words, but with a veggie garden. Namaste
Jul 10, 2011 @ 04:14:40
You guys are *awesome*. To all your supporters: the Basses are the Real Deal – they deserve every ounce of support and then some.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 04:19:29
Ms. Bass
We have all experienced the pettyness of bureaucrats. Many of them look upon
civil service as a chance to enrich themselves, their families and their friends. I wonder how much nepotism can be found among the employees of the city government of Oak Park? The more one digs, the more dirt is uncovered. As for names, and salaries of city officials it is public information, and should be available for anyone to see. Just about every thing in the American system of business, government, and even religion…. is seemingly corrupted. The only chance America has going forward is to get the ‘bums’ out of Public Service, and to uncover the corruption where ever it is found. Were I a resident of Oak Park I would urge your supporters there, to back you in the next election cycle for a run for Mayor, or City Council member. Climb aboard the “flying carpet’.
I think you must know of Rahm Emmanuel, President Obama’s former
Chief of Staff? He recently won the Mayoral election in Chicago, Illinois.
One of his campaign promises was to list the Names, positions, and salaries of
all 35,000 (or so) Chicago city employees. Upon his taking office, he kept his
promise and every employee’s information is available on-line for anyone
to see.
I was saddened to find an earlier post to this website was not printed.
(edited out?). It was a discussion between God and St Francis about
the idiocy of suburban lawns. I thought it was hilarious, but people today
don’t want to hear from or about God…I assume this website thinks the mention
of Our Heavenly Father or “GOD” is ‘politically incorrect’?
BTW, I sent it to Director “Kevin” …..you know who…….
Ciao
GJP
Powell, Wyoming
Jul 10, 2011 @ 06:16:22
Taking the high road and telling the simple truth: Always the best course of action! It automatically gives you a notch up.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 07:01:28
you say to verify facts and that there are distortions out there. I think the title oak park hates veggies is a huge distortion and untruth. i thought the violation was about code not followed not about whether someone likes or hates veggies….all unpaved areas need to be planted…. i dont think you did that. i see squares in center of bare areas lots of bare areas. spanish moss maybe??? the issue i am sure is neighboring property values. i think you should take up offers from some of the followers and get help in the aesthetics. and please get the truth out there i am sure noone hates veggies, you just didnt follow the code. it really doesnt look nice for a front yard but then again i dont know what the rest of your neighborhood looks like, if there are cars on blocks in your neighbors front yard then this would be a step up and fit right in. the idea of planting a garden there is fine. it just looks crappy.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 07:45:05
I emailed DIY network the link to the article about this, maybe they will offer to help you with the aesthetics.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 08:39:58
and censoring out the articles you dont like is also distorting the facts and encouraging others to do what you are asking them not to do. you are leaving only comments which support your cause and incites others to act out more than usual. if you leave all the comments here both pro and con it probably wouldnt get to the point of what you mention above. so please post all 3 of my comments with this being the third of three. second of three being that DIY network was emailed the link to possibly help you with the aesthetics, and one of three being that your yard isnt up to code.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 08:40:36
Can you spell out “F*CK YOU KEVIN” in marigolds?
Maybe that would be common enough for him.
Having a woman marched away in leg irons over a head of lettuce won’t sit well with voters. Even if this Kevin fellow is not elected, THE SOMEONE WHO HIRED HIM probably is. I would find THAT person and shove a mic in his face long about November.
Go to jail if you must. Seriously. Martha made serving time very chic… **lol***
Good luck and HANG TOUGH!!!!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 09:57:36
I can’t help but wonder if we could ALL put ” Oak park Vegetables” in our front yards? Will someone please come up with a simple picture we can enlarge, print out and attach to a wooden backer for our front yard? I want to show my support for Oak Park Veggies!
Also, have you found out which neighbor called in the original complaint?
Jul 10, 2011 @ 10:00:11
The children in your neighborhood are blessed to have you as an example for how to take on the system in a highly moraled manner. Heck, not that it’s public, we’re all blessed to have you. I’m looking forward to sending a few dollars to your legal fund.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 10:14:50
Well said. Sadly, this kind of bullying approach seems to be getting more common in our society. Why is that, I wonder? How did we get so angry that even the slightest dispute acts as a lit match to the gasoline of our collective aggression? This trend scares me even more than the idea that an American citizen would not be allowed to grow edible plants in their front yard. And that actually scares me a great deal. Thank you for doing the right thing when you planted your garden, and for continuing to do the right thing by taking the high road.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 10:18:14
Yessss!!!!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 10:28:30
hi, that particular post was from me, I have put it in so many places i forgot about this and hadn’t even noticed it was missing
I thought it was funny and so true, I have no idea where the offense was in there, but glad that you found it funny – thankyou
Jul 10, 2011 @ 10:50:50
I looked up demographics for Oak Park. The median household income for a working couple was a little over $54,000.00. Not much money, all things considered, in today’s market. Especially if a couple has several children.
The above amount is before taxes btw. After federal, state and local taxes, you can bet that $54k is greatly reduced. Now add county and city property taxes, sales tax, phone tax, utility taxes, etc., etc., etc. Now add up housing costs, clothing, food, utilities, school expenses, gas/travel expenses, home maintenance, insurance for vehicles and home, medical, car repairs, etc. Exactly how much do people think will be left after all these taxes and necessities? Not to mention incidentals during the year. Not very darn much I guarantee you.
People are finding ways to stretch their budgets while providing healthy food to their family. Case in point, the house with the “front yard vegetable garden”. Economically sound, environmentally sound and aesthetically appealing. More importantly, teaching the children responsibility and values. The latter 2 of which have been lost on the majority of children in today’s society.
What more could America ask for of her citizens than a solid, every day family doing what it takes to survive?
Jul 10, 2011 @ 10:56:12
As a pharmacist turned slight naturist, I applaud what you are doing. Your garden looks really nice. Good Luck!!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:00:12
i am ready to donate the second you open a fund for legal defense of your garden
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:15:28
The idea of taking a stand yourself is not having someone else do it for you. The federal government (i.e., even Michelle Obama) has nothing to do with this and we need to rid ourselves of the idea that they can let it or not let it happen. This is a wonderful example of social justice and citizens being educated in the process. The city is wrong and the ordinance needs to change and this is how it will happen. Good luck to all involved.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:23:01
I’m so glad to see the outpouring of support for you over this ridiculous zoning difficulty over your veggies. I have gotten into trouble over zoning and permitting regulations in my county, too, and they cause quite a headache. Most of the fees are devoid of common sense and wind up being additional taxes levied on those who want to improve or use their land. I’m concerned that one day my own new garden beds will violate some obscure and senseless rule and cause me trouble. Probably not to the degree you are facing.
Kudos to you and your family, blessings and prayers on your behalf. You are kind in your thoughts toward the people involved and can separate rules from the idividuals that enforce them. What a breath of fresh air you are! I hope you can keep and improve your gardens, feed those who persecute you (to paraphrase!), and not suffer from what’s going on.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:33:50
I applaud your request for civility. I hope the Oak Park officials come to their senses and allow you to grow your garden. The first lady has urged us to grow veggies. I have been growing veggies in my front yard for 20 years. You have a photo of my satellite garden. I will not give it up.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:37:16
Hi, just wanted to say I applaud your efforts to maintain sanity in an increasingly insane world. I’ve added you to my facebook page and hope this goes viral!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:38:31
Great post. As someone who manages constituent correspondence (letters, emails, phone calls) for a board of locally elected public officials, I can tell you that as soon as we receive a threatening message or one that starts out “you’re such idiots” and goes on to use profanity and other insults, the more likely we are to completely dismiss the message as rude, offensive and outside the bounds of civic discourse. Keep your comments civil and factual, and they will go a lot further in convincing a civic official to change his or her mind.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:39:48
Hi there – Glenn Beck’s “The Blaze” is carrying your story. I’m a resident of Tucson, Arizona and I sent this paper letter to City Manager Rick Fox on your behalf.
Dear Mr. Fox:
I learned on the news that your city is hounding homeowner Julie Bass because she is growing vegetables in her front yard. I am writing to express my displeasure at your administration’s interpretation of the relevant city code, which says that “all unpaved portions of the site shall be planted with grass or ground cover or shrubbery or other suitable live plant material.”
Why would vegetables not be considered “suitable live plant material?” As a gardener myself, I can tell you that most of Ms. Bass’s plants will grow beautiful green leaves, vibrant flowers, and succulent fruits of all colors. In addition, the raised beds will contain the plants and ensure that they will not propagate wildly through the lot. In sum, she has created an attractive front yard that meets practical as well as aesthetic considerations.
Certainly, having a code stipulating the general appearance of a front yard is necessary to ensure that residents do not allow the public face of their property to grow trashy or unkempt. Few things diminish one’s property value more quickly than living next to a jungle or junkyard. However, Ms. Bass’s actions, which include consulting with zoning officials, carefully selecting suitable plants, and purchasing decorative pavers and trellises, demonstrate that she is not the typical ‘jungle or junkyard’ homeowner that this code is meant to address.
In this era of budget belt-tightening, your city’s pursuit of Ms. Bass wastes taxpayer dollars and needlessly inserts government into the lives of law-abiding citizens. I propose that you take the money you would have spent fighting Ms. Bass over her front yard and use it to transform a local vacant lot into the Julie Bass Community Garden of Oak Park.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:41:59
I live in Alaska moved from Mich 30+ years ago. I am so glad that up here we know that growing your own food stuffs is the american way and we have 2 greenhouses and tons of veggies growing in our front yard and people stop to see and taste and enjoy the green beautiful vegitation. Garden does not mean mess and garbage it means food and well tended beds and beauty. God gave you a green thumb and I say use it and if the neighbors were smart in this economy they would be planting food also!!!!!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:44:30
I found this video which I thought was amusing considering Rulkowski’s comments….. http://weirdnews.aol.com/2011/07/08/julie-bass-jail-vegetable-garden_n_893436.html
After hearing this Rulkowski critter refer to “suitable” as being “common”, I decided to drag out my 6″ thick “Webster’s New Universal Unabridged Dictionary”. Under “suitable”, the word “common” did not appear. I then looked up the word “common” and discovered “suitable” was not a synonym and not even listed in the definitions. I then went to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/common and still did not find “suitable” listed. I would like to know which “Webster” dictionary this man is using.
What I did find were definitions like, “meant or adapted for an occasion or use”, “appropriate, right, fitting, fit, suited, acceptable, becoming, correct, satisfactory, apt, befitting”, “the condition of being applicable”. Where does this pompous city official get “common”? House flies are common.
Julie Bass’s garden is well “adapted” for the occasion and economic costs. She has used her land correctly. It is “fitting” and well “suited” to her property. The majority of people have found it “becoming”. It is “befitting” to economic times. The plants are darn sure “applicable” to the city ordinance that says “suitable, live plant material”. There is NO qualification as to what exactly is “suitable”. Ergo, this boils down to ONE man’s opinion and bullish behavior.
FYI: I looked up the average jail time for people arrested for marijuana possession and/or use. Didn’t come close to 93 days as Ms. Bass has been threatened with. Personal vendetta because she didn’t capitulate to a ambiguous ordinance? She dared defy this Rulkowski? Personally, I think that is exactly what is going on. Were I Ms. Bass, I would sue Oak Park and Rulkowski for harassment and false charges.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:46:28
I want to chime in with my support. What you’re doing is important on a whole host of levels: environmental, health, property rights, etc. The very idea that the state would encroach on an owner’s rights in this fashion should be a warning to all of us.
Please do post someway that people can assist you with your legal costs. Even if everyone were to send a dollar; it all helps. You are a great example of peaceful, mindful protest and I appreciate all that you’re doing for everyone.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:49:38
The mayor and two of the city council members (Seligson and Levine) are up for re-election this November. Making this a campaign issue and using it to pressure the candidates would be an acceptable way to take this to the elected officials. I don’t know yet who is challenging the council members, but Marian Meisner McClellan is challenging Naftaly for Mayor. Take this issue to her. Here’s her campaign website:
http://marian4mayor.com/home
She cant be much worse than Naftaly on this issue, and she might just be a lot better.
When vegetables are outlawed, only outlaws will grow vegetables « Liz Snyder
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:53:28
Jul 10, 2011 @ 11:57:49
I just added your plea to the end of my recent blog post: http://www.ieatreal.com/317
It’s true, the worst thing that could happen is to have the officials in power feel threatened – when what we really want to do is help them experience a transformation, a realization that there are bigger issues at play here than they could have imagined. The only way to do that is to calmly, collectively (and through official means!) make the case that gardens belong in the public eye – and within kids’ reach.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:05:34
One more thing: I know that in the Great State of Washington, it is now classified as a felony to harass, intimidate or threaten a public official, of any kind. Intimidation, no matter how well intentioned, always has the opposite effect of what was intended.
Also, consider faxing and sending hard-copy letters to Oak Park officials, in addition to emails. The bigger the file that can be made (emails won’t necessarily be printed and are easily deleted) the better for this family when and if this matter ends up before a judge/jury.
Keep it positive and on-message.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:08:18
Back in wwii thay were called victory gardens theres no differents now then then is there
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:14:58
“…this is a dispute over landscaping, not a matter of life or death.”
Actually, it IS life or death. Because if you don’t do what government agents tell you, they claim the right to kill you.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:22:48
Well, I thought this was still America but maybe things have changed that much here and isn’t that scary. We wish you the best and hope some good Attorney will get on your side of this pro bono and protect your civil rights. ♥♥
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:29:07
THIS. There’ve been a lot of instances lately of so-called threats being nothing more than disagreement with the politicians’ view points (think Wisconsin), and law enforcement authorities were NOT amused to have their time wasted.
I tend to take all reports of threats received with a salt shaker full unless proof is provided.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:32:22
I am no fan of bureaucrats, but I think this issue is about the city laws and ordinances that are being enforced. Those need updating. If the current officials will do that, and yes, they have the power to do that, then the stifling, outdated, lawncentric rules will need no enforcement.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 12:37:05
Here is another example of the heavy hands of local governments these days. A very dear friend of mine who is elderly was issued a letter from her city. Basically the same principle as what Oak Park is doing.
Her crime (one of them) is planting mint in her front yard. Apparently the city folks don’t know what certain plants are. This mint is only about 2 feet high and sits up high in a planter which is part of her retaining wall system. It is not unattractive and it is contained to about a 3.5 by 3.5 section. She uses the mint for tea and her stomach. Plus, as she said, the bees love it and is great for pollination and the bee population.
Then, because of a break in her retaining wall (the city broke it), she decided to get creative and build a bamboo barrier. Bamboo is one of the strongest materials on the planet. It is the only living thing that survived Hiroshima. She keeps it trimmed to 5 ft in height. Made a perfect retaining wall for now. She also allowed the “indigenous” vines to grow as ground cover on a side portion of the property which is not used by anyone. It looks like a beautiful green carpet of natural flora. Unusual yard..yes. Unkempt? NO!
Anyone see a problem so far? I sure didn’t, but the city did. She was cited. So, because she is on a very limited income, she said to hell with it. She paid a guy to tear out the vines and just about everything else. Then she sprayed her yard to kill off all her vegetation. Now it is all brown which is NOT against her city ordinances. Harsh, yes! Effective? You bet.
Too much of this happening nation wide by cities that are in financial crisis. Their solution, start fining people for minor issues. And fining they are doing over stupid, immature complaints. My friend paid a $140 fine for growing mint, bamboo and indigenous vines.
I sincerely hope Ms. Bass goes full bore on this. I applaud her for standing her ground. I wish more citizens would take this tact instead of capitulating to brown shirts.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 13:12:23
I am saddened that Grown People would do this to someone who seems to be doing The GREEN Way for herself n Community! The Authorities evidently don’t read or watch TV! They will soon be asking everyone to grow gardens, stop mowing, n restrict water usage! God will deliver you out of their hands! Looks to be covering the Ground to me! Shaking my head in Texas, at the INSANITY! After all, GOD put man in A GARDEN! Not on THE Lawn!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 13:14:59
I applaud you for taking the high ground Julie and I fully support your stance on this. You have to run a clean campaign or there will be no point and any efforts won’t be listened to. Please feel free to alert me to anything on the Take Back Urban Home-steading(s) page that violates this and I will deal with it immediately. Keep up the good fight Julie!
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Jul 10, 2011 @ 13:22:55
Jul 10, 2011 @ 13:53:39
Hi Julie,
I have organized a JUSTICE FOR JULIE BASS Facebook page, and we are organizing a rally on your behalf on July 18, the day of the City Council meeting. Please check it and let me know if you think there should be any changes. https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=216188255091183&view=wall
Thanks so much!
Linda Calder Hornsby
Jul 10, 2011 @ 13:54:45
Impressed with your integrity!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 13:55:55
Excellent request, wonderfully put!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 14:11:37
For the most part I agree with you, but I would point out that salaries of public servants are *public information*. You have a right and a responsibility to know what your taxes are paying for, down to the last penny.
If a public servant does something unpopular and potentially out of their jurisdiction to prosecute, they are exposing themselves to the scrutiny of the taxpayer. They need to keep that in mind when making those sorts of decisions; it’s what is supposed to keep them ‘honest’ so to speak. They should have done their homework, and made sure they have a legal leg to stand on. If they don’t, they deserve the outcry of the public. That being said however, I do agree that home attacks are not acceptable.
I think part of the problem in this society is that public servants have forgotten that they’re supposed to serve the public.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 14:12:39
In reply to: “I agree with your idea. Remember they used to be called Victory Gardens and encouraged. Michelle Obama is on a mission to teach nutrition to kids and reverse childhood obesity. How about 500 emails to her office asking why this situation is being allowed?…”
This is not a federal issue, this is a community issue. States (per the 10th amendment to the Constitution) , counties, cities (by extension) have the right of self-determination. That is why is it is also okay for homeowners associations to enact such standards because they are voluntary and limited.
Don’t involve the federal government. It is more likely to support a local ordinance on the implied threat it contains to it’s own status quo.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 14:18:12
I am very impressed with your response to all of this pettiness. I know you don’t want to move, however, in Portland you can plant whatever you want – and have chickens/ducks/turkeys/geese in your FRONT yard or back yard or roof top. We would be proud to have you as a citizen. Sending good thoughts your way.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 14:29:13
We’re with you, Julie. When we’re out front in the vegetable garden, or otherwise. Stay strong.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 14:32:15
I agree with the previous posters. You have really shown WHO you are by taking this stand. Makes me feel good as someone who is in major support of you, someone who has talked about this on my blog, facebook, etc that you are taking this stand.
Keep up the good fight….we are all behind you!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 14:59:10
Please (with legal advice) establish some kind of site for legal defense. This is not just your fight. There must be millions of Americans who suffer from administrative fiat of this kind, so the money would just not go for your personal benefit or even for that of those in your immediate area. Good luck, and please do not hesitate to ask for help.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 15:27:36
i don’t actually remember seeing your other comments, and they are not next to this one in my list. in general, i do post every single comment, either in favor or against- unless they contain lots of swearing(to the point where i can’t even edit out the cursing) and/or hateful rants and/or threats against someone. i have no problem with people reading comments from others who don’t support what i am doing, but i will not be party to excessive ugliness or frightening rants. hope that clarifies.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 15:52:19
ok tj- so this is the second post from you (can’t find the third one…), and i will respond to this as well- even though i am getting the vibe that you want to pick a fight more than you want to listen. but i will give you the benefit of the doubt…
oak park hates veggies was a tongue-in-cheek title i made up before everything became a legal hailstorm. you are correct that, technically, the city probably does not hate veggies, nor do the employees themselves.
the violation is about whether we violated anything at all. because the ordinance really doesn’t talk about vegetables or gardens at all.
and it doesn’t say all unpaved areas need to be planted- it says that all unpaved areas must be covered with grass, shrubbery, or other suitable ground cover. the entire area is covered with one or another of the things from this category. the only bare areas are where the grass hasn’t filled in yet.
i did follow the code, as well as the information i was given on the phone by the planning director. the issue is not property values. isn’t now, never was…
i’m sorry you don’t like our garden. but that doesn’t make it illegal.
if you have any other concerns, please feel free to post.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 15:57:47
Wondering why my comment was not posted? I started a FB event page for Monday, July 18, which is to be a protest. The page is called JUSTICE FOR JULIE BASS. Is there some reason it was not posted?
Jul 10, 2011 @ 16:00:38
OOPS sorry; see that it was. *blush*
Jul 10, 2011 @ 16:04:02
Some people, unfortunately, act without thinking. I applaud you for your persistence and look to a change in the law. This is after all, America. Some laws are meant to be broken. Without breaking some laws, how can we expect change. Change can bring on the better. I am a believer in change, if it is for the good.This certainly is a stepping stone in your community! One step towards better things for you, the children, and others who may be facing, have faced, or will face the same predicament. All the best.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 16:47:36
You sound very very sane and sensible – which is refreshing. Good luck for you and your garden. I hope common sense prevails.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 17:02:28
What about a simple POSTCARD to the officials in questions. (not emails as they are bouncing, or letters as those are wasted too)
Dear Mr/Ms ZYX (fill in name of official) -
I think Julie Bass’s front yarden is suitable and becoming common to the current economic conditions. Please redraw the complaint.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Ms/Mr. Xyz
Jul 10, 2011 @ 17:48:29
The worst villian in this sad-but-true story is the interfering neighbor who complained about whatever you chose to grow/sustain in YOUR front yard! If anyone like that offensive pest had tried to play “controller” in my Detroit neighborhood –the way it used to be, back when there were houses here with mellow, straightforward people (like you) living in them– we would have resolved (as a group) to make that egoistic party-pooper’s life a living hell until he-or-she either agreed to “live and let live” or moved!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 17:49:42
Great idea, Cat!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 20:03:10
oh, gosh- we really don’t even know for sure if someone complained in the first place. the person who was on the news is a very sad person who is facing HUGE personal problems right now, so more than anything else, i just feel sad that she is upset. a few neighbors wanted to “set her straight” and i was like, um maybe take her a pot of soup instead! to this day we still can’t get a clear answer from the city if there ever even was a complaint- soooooooooooooo, we’re going to err on the side of believing that our neighbors are all good people
but i feel very protected that you would be willing to stick up for me like that! thanks! -julie
Jul 10, 2011 @ 20:09:46
My son suggests that people attending on the day of the court hearing show up with signs that say: “BEET City Hall”, “LETTUCE grow food”, “TURNIP” & support Julie”, “PEAS in the hood”, etc…….. I’m sure people can come up with other signs along the same line….I know we would be there in support but we live too far away….
Jul 10, 2011 @ 20:13:02
ROFLMBO! Your son is a riot foodies. Very clever play on words.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 20:25:25
He can be very clever……other people are suggesting:
:”SQUASH the nonsense”, “PEPPER them w/common sense”, “KALE the idiocy!”
I think it would be fantastic to show up with those signs and a big color picture of the veggie on each!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 21:11:28
You, Mrs. Bass, are a class act! Keep up the good work.
Jul 10, 2011 @ 21:27:03
Squash the nonsense! That is great! Although Beet City Hall is good too!
Jul 10, 2011 @ 21:34:49
Well….you know Anthony….he can come up with clever quips….but so did another person at the FB page….
Jul 10, 2011 @ 23:21:36
If a law is immoral or unjust it is duty to disobey. This is a perfect example of injustice enshrined in an illegal law!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 07:24:50
I am astonished that anyone would take on such a silly issue and ASK for donations for legal bills. No one is being fined for growing food. The issue is where the garden is placed yet the bloggers put this akin to civil right violations. There is nothing similar to where you put your cucumber to .if you can marry outside of your race or any of the other examples you cite. delighting in wanting a jury trial because you think it straps the city? I have always been told that YOU pay for it through your court costs. Best of luck to you, but I am thrilled you are not my neighbor. Rusting vehicles probably are featured works of art, too.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 10:37:28
In our local government, we would request what is called an “Ordinance Text Amendment” which in this case would clarify an obviously ambiguous existing text. I do question why ordinary citizens do not have access to their own laws; most city web pages have a link to their municipal codes. I tried to find it on line and was not successful, other than a helpful hints page for citizens. If this issue is so important, there should be a helpful hint about it on their website. With many (30) years of federal, state and local government service, I looked at your problem from the botton up. It still comes back to the same thing. When anyone is asking for clarification for something this expensive, get your information in writing. Do not rely on local officials or others to have 100% recall. Additionally and since it appears that damage occurred from a city’s tree (and I assume that has been documented), I believe that the city should have been responsible for repairing all of the damages incurred. Nonetheless, I completely support what you are tackling in principal. Words like “sustainability”, “healthy communities”, and “healthful living” all creep into this landscape, and people and communities all across the country are buying into the advantages, right and left. Just ask Michelle Obama, who has a veggie garden on the front lawn of her little home on Pennsylvania Avenue.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 10:47:53
May Our Creator be with you. Let common sense and human rights prevail. Even as a Marine we pray for peace FIRST and foremost. I hope you have a very peaceful resolution that preserves the individual rights.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 10:58:05
Totally Agree & Well Said! If we expect others to behave like adults, we Must show them we are also! Remember what this is about-this woman has 6 children to feed during this Rotten economy, doing the best she can, if we really want to help we need to rise above the finger pointing & name calling. That’s Not gonna help her in Any way.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 11:06:01
Please stand up for your rights others will benefit in your wake! This is a tasteful (pardon the pun) and simple garden! I think you should have a fundraiser that would raffle off your beds to paint the exterior of them. You could have some people spiff up the beds with non-toxic paint & stains! Wouldn’t that be a fun day! And you might be able to get some of the numerous artists in the Greater Detroit area to do it!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 11:07:46
FAR from being a militant or radical, I feel I recognize the need for the “Little Guy” to make a stand here (sorry, Little Gal seems wrong). My point being that with this whole planet’s need to point activities in more sustainable directions, we cannot allow some piddly, poorly defined ordinance to squash what might turn into a “pull-out-the-grass-roots-movement.” Most of us find our selves too busy to undertake such projects, but maybe that’s only until we see the true benefits and value of just such an enterprise. I adore what she has done and I know why I feel that way….it just feels right!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 11:07:59
Too Funny Love it!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 11:22:02
Jul 11, 2011 @ 11:22:29
Good for you, taking the high road! I am praying that you will be able to keep your garden and win this ridiculous battle…you go girl!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 14:42:19
Mrs. Bass,
So many comments…I hope you see this one. I couldn’t call in to talk when you were on a local (Seattle) radio show this morning. I’m sorry to have to suggest this, if others haven’t already, but you should give serious consideration to putting up security cameras where they can see your garden. There are many cheap systems available. I know I don’t mind too much when people take things from my garden…I like to believe they need it more than I do. Unfortunately, we live in an era where tiny politicians and officials will resort to vandalism and outright destruction of your garden if they don’t get their way in court. Of course, I hope this never happens, but I would be sad to see you proven right, only to lose your garden anyway AND have no evidence. Best wishes and good luck. Oh…and BTW, *has* Michelle Obama heard about this (that you know of)?
Jul 11, 2011 @ 14:56:28
You are a very admirable person for taking the high road. I think what is being done to you is ridiculous. I wish you the best of luck in getting this outrageous law revoked.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 15:21:13
The problem is that even if this case is dropped, the government will later come back and successfully push around others. You can even try to change the government through elections, but you rarely can do anything, and inevitably the scum bubbles back up again. Government has infinite time and resources, and you only have one life. Personal attacks are not just emotionally satisfying for the powerless: they also force government officials to have real accountability for the decisions they make. While non-violence is usually the most powerful tactic, certainly your oppressors shouldn’t be able to “sit down in peace” until you can.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 15:33:07
Keep fighting the good fight. Just wanted to share with you the email i sent to your city planner, city manager, mayor, and council…
To Mr. Rulkowski and to the Leadership of the City of Oak Park Michigan,
Although I am neither a citizen of Oak Park, nor of Michigan, I could not resist writing you in the hopes that you will cease and desist your legal persecution of the Bass family over the matter of their front yard vegetable garden.
I, myself have started a vegetable garden this year, and in so doing came to the realization that it is only a matter of time before the government or others may seek to deny me and my heirs this seemingly inalienable right. After all, in these modern times, are we not expected to purchase our food from the ‘common’ supply chain of foods that originate from heavily regulated sources (in the interest of food safety, etc.)?
It just seems to me that, for most Americans, producing one’s own food is an expressive act, and apparently in the case of Mrs. Bass (as well as myself), it is an act meant to communicate to our children that they need to be more self reliant, and less so upon the government and commercial industry to always supply their food. From reading Mrs. Bass’s comments to the press, it seems quite obvious to me that she is attempting to educate the children in the neighborhood about growing a garden. I would argue that this is an act of expression which is protected under the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Although I am not familiar with the ordinances of the City of Oak Park, from the news reports, it seems that this entire case is hinging upon whether or not vegetable plants constitute ‘suitable’ plants for inclusion in the landscaping of a front yard. News reports have cited Mr. Rulkowski as asserting that ‘suitable’ plants would equate to ‘common’ plants per the definition in Websters dictionary. I have three objections to this assertion: First, I would assert that if the ordinance were intended to include only common vegatation, then those who passed the ordinance would have used the word ‘common’ (this is a very basic principle of law). Second, I would assert that the definition of the word ‘suitable’ is more closely related to ‘adapted to a use or purpose’ and ‘satisfying propriety’, as per the online version of Merriam Webster’s dictionary (which by the way has many interesting comments about your fine city under the word ‘suitable’). Third, I would suggest that by asserting that only ‘common’ vegation is acceptable under your ordinance, you are openly admitting that the ordinance exists to specifically prevent the (1st Amendment protected) ‘expressive’ nature of Mrs. Bass’s garden.
Now, I would also ask you; Do you really believe that a JURY will find Mrs. Bass to be GUILTY OF A CRIME? I mean, realistically… Do you believe that you are going to successfully prosecute this woman AND serve the interests of your city?
In my view, the leadership of the city has an obligation to the residents and taxpayers to keep the moral compass properly calibrated, and I personally think it is a bit out of whack on this one. A little wisdom would see the charges being dropped and an attempt to make nice before things get out of hand (if you don’t consider national outrage to be ‘out of hand’, then there is still time to prevent things from getting REALLY out of hand.)
Jul 11, 2011 @ 17:09:26
my compliments and thanks for the brief visual trip in your personal space…it is so rewarding to know that nature has provided us with edible plants and a brain to discern the most productive way to remain beautiful in full frontal commodity…a lovely garden…be proud and healthy julie and all sensible gardeners who love life and health.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 18:36:34
This is one of my favorite blog posts in a long time: why? You demonstrated compassion for your opponent. Sure, the city planning office, your neighbor, the city prosecutor are choosing a narrow view in terms of what is suitable for a front lawn (most people in the world would envy the good fortune of homegrown produce)… but humans get stuck sometimes and forget to see the big picture. You clearly didn’t with your reminders to be kind, considerate while fighting the good fight. Thank you for inspiring people to grow their own food…but also, thank you for being gracious and having integrity.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 19:05:53
You are a class act; if everyone could be like this the world would be so much better.
Remember, “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”
(I certainly hope the violence isn’t literal.)
People need time to accept the idea of front-lawn veggie gardens, but it will come. All the best to you.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 20:59:03
oh, john- eek! i hope we don’t have to resort to video cameras- they are probably against code anyway
seriously, though, a lot of people have suggested getting in contact with michelle obama, so maybe one of them will actually be successful- never know, huh? thanks for your support- julie
Jul 11, 2011 @ 21:38:20
ok, susan- really? are you genuinely wondering about these things?
1- people have asked how they could contribute for legal expenses. our attorney is working pro bono, but there are still expenses in filing fees, hiring workers, etc. we are not being fined for growing food. i am facing jail time for growing food. do you like that better?
2-as far as i know, nobody is saying this is akin to a civil rights violation. if someone else said something in another place that gave you this impression, take it up with them.
3- i DELIGHT in wanting a jury trial? are you kidding? i would love for this all to go away. i didn’t warn myself, or ticket myself, or take myself to court. i am not delighting in any of it…
4- you think i want to make the city spend money when it is cash-strapped? sorry, but those are less library books my kids have access to, less recreation programs for the kids in the city so they are not running the streets, less city services (offices are now closed on fridays), possibly less police protection, etc etc etc- if you think any of these things are what i want, you clearly have no sense of who i am.
5- i’m sorry about all of the hostility you are generating, but i think you need to direct it somewhere else. your “facts” seem mostly wrong- in this and other comments, and your tone is just plain nasty. i’m publishing your comments in hopes that maybe you will see that you are wrong, or at least other people will know how careful they have to be with people like you waiting to jump on them. yikes.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 22:01:43
See now thats a positive suggestion! Or outdoors with Jamie Durie might be able to help her with inspiration and design! But she has made a good start and I am sure in the coming years she will keep expanding and making it more and more beautiful!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 22:03:02
I dont know about others, But as an outsider I can see your posts TJ. A little bit snarky you sound but maybe you are having a bad day!
Jul 11, 2011 @ 22:09:43
I agree except salaries are generally public information in most locales.
Jul 12, 2011 @ 09:16:49
Doesn’t the White House have a veggie garden? Isn’t that enough of an example and purpose for the city to drop this absurd reaction? Blessings to you and prayers to resolve this mayhem for the good of the people.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 01:50:43
I am visiting here because Leslie @ A Flower that continues to bloom posted a link about your wonderful attitude in dealing with your situation on “Pay It Forward”. I can certainly see why. Kudos to you for doing the right thing in the right way! Good luck in working it all out.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 09:56:39
well thank you- and please tell her thank you as well! have a great day! -julie
Jul 13, 2011 @ 13:41:09
One thing folks should do is this: start a recall petition against those anti-garden City Hall folks. And if that doesn’t get them out of office, elect somebody new next regular election. The government needs to be reminded that they work for the taxpayers, not the other way around!
Rusty
Jul 13, 2011 @ 14:50:06
I enjoy checking in daily to see your musings. I have your page bookmarked on my must read list!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:55:48
The best form of protest is to have more people putting vegetable gardens in their front yards.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 19:56:54
Good to see someone planting on the high ground. BTW How much for the tomatoes? If I didn’t buy local produce as much as possible I’d send an online order your way. If there was a paypal thing or old fashioned PO Box, I’d be inclined to send a contribution your way… My wife and I went through a miserable time with the Homeowner’s Association a few years back regarding her front yard habitat of indiginous groundcover, shrubs, wildflowers, etc. They said it was unsuitable…Wait’ll next spring. They may get a chance to eat their words.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:07:39
Bravo!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:07:47
I grew a couple of tomato plants in my front (formerly) flower beds more than a few years ago – in a neighboring community – and had no problem. Lighten up, Oak Park!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:16:16
Good to take the high road, but I see nothing wrong with posting links to city officials’ official e-mail addresses. That enables people to contact them in their official capacities and let them know what they think of their moronic decisions. I agree that their personal info, addresses, etc. should be off-limits, but in their capacity as city government elected or appointed officials all bets are off in terms of contact info. IMO.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:22:01
We had an avocado tree growing in our front yard when we lived in Hawai’i back in the late 70s. I really miss Hawai’i!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 20:58:27
Is there a way to have other gardeners with front yard gardens post a pic to the FB page? It might be helpful to show how common this actually is, and a show of solidarity
Also a FB note or page with links to some of the gazillions of organizations promoting lawn-reducing gardens, vegetable patches, etc.
I am wondering if anyone in Oak Park could collect signatures or introduce whatever is needed to modify the ordinance to allow specifically the gardens?
Jul 13, 2011 @ 21:00:44
Hi read about this in Perth Australia, in my experience of dealing with local councils it’s people power they listen to because that means voting power! Most of these people have thier own agendas for being on the council and want to stay there. When is you next election due? There is no law to stop you campaigning against them! A few ‘do you want this man stand for council?’ might make them think about their postion.
Good Luck
Jul 13, 2011 @ 21:08:22
I think your letter was extremely well written. Cool, calm, collected and intelligent. I love the idea of a “Julie Bass Community Garden”!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 21:40:03
me too- and i’ve never even been there…
Jul 13, 2011 @ 21:40:13
Good for you to do this the right way. Fight them well and honorably. My name and pen are with you. If you need anything written, please, let me assert that I will offer my services as a writer (you can see some of my own work on WordPress) should you need anything written that you do not already have covered. Just remember there comes a point when it may become bigger than you, and people may need to start acting on their own. There is a greater war at stake here than a garden. You understand that, I would assume, else you would likely not have brought the dispute this far. That being said, even if the city rules against you that is no reason to quit. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson “The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” Sometimes the fight must go further on principle to remind this nation’s leaders that the purpose of government is to protect the people’s rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Anymore it seems all the government does it bow to the whims of those determined never to be happy, who seek to make everyone around them as miserable as they are.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 23:20:13
Nice example of sanity under fire. I admire that greatly.
Jul 13, 2011 @ 23:48:42
I agree. Many years ago, a neighbor of mine in Lawrence, Kansas was into yard art — still is. She placed several dead umbrellas in her tree to make an artistic statement. When city code enforcement came down on her, umbrella trees started sprouting all over town, and scores of people started showing up at city council meetings with umbrellas. The city soon realized that there was no way they could win, and backed off. Spontaneous community support for personal freedom can be an unstoppable force.
Jul 14, 2011 @ 08:05:44
Wow this whole violation thing is rather unbelievable. Your beds look fantastic by the way – you did a lovely job. and to know that you went about it the right way by contacting the city ahead of time shows integrity. Now you continue with the integrity by taking the high ground and encouraging and insisting we treat people honorably, good for you. I hope this thing clears up quickly and of course in your favor. Vegetables UNITE
P.S. love your musings on this blog, you are rational logical and pretty funny too!
Jul 14, 2011 @ 11:27:24
well said it is not a personal fight but..about a fight for all our rights
love n support from uk
Aug 08, 2011 @ 19:22:46
After I originally commented I clicked the -Notify me when new feedback are added- checkbox and now each time a comment is added I get 4 emails with the identical comment. Is there any way you’ll be able to take away me from that service? Thanks!
Aug 08, 2011 @ 20:10:14
oh boy- this happened to someone else, too. check the post that is titled something like- hells bells, can someone please help this woman?- lots of people gave her good suggestions, but i know that i can’t do it from my end… sorry…